Wednesday, March 9, 2011

Coward, part 2

One coward goes down, it seams, then another crawls out from under his rock. This case has a different angle to it, but the motives are the same.

Set the time machine back to October, 2010. We had a user on Conservapedia named Willminator, and he happened to be the unwilling participant in a fight with a certain individual who calls himself "Jeff Tavolieri". The fight took place via emails, and Will published those emails on his user page for all to see. The last one placed on that page from "Jeff" was this:

Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 2:06:13 PM
Subject: you will never stop us

"You may have it figured out, but you can never stop us. Let this be a warning to you: I am pro-abortion. I do support population control. I do support letting the weak die (or even helping them die). I do want to take your guns away you. I will see to it that no prayer is ever given in a public school. I will fight to destroy the institution of marriage as you know it. I will indoctrinate your children and insulate them from your religious dogma. I will fight the conservative myth of american exceptionalism. I will fight for a one world government. I will fight for gays in the military even if it weakens it. I will lie, revise history, cheat, steal and censor to further our goals. What are you going to do about it? I will stop at no end, but you have to operate within the fictional bounds of your morality. How can you win this game when I can break the rules? Give it up and get out of america while you still can because nothing will stop us. Do you think you're going to fight? Do you think we would have any problem using chemical warfare or weapons of mass destruction? Do you think we care if women and children get in the way? Face it, we will win. Liberalism and atheism will prevail. The conservative movement will be systematically dismantled and there is NOTHING you can do. Wake up to the facts. Wake up to a war that you simply cannot win."

But it gets better. On the website known as "RationalWiki" this same "Jeff" - who called himself "JeffT" on that site - stated that the emails were made up (see the arrow in the picture); they weren't his, even though he admitted he added the words "and stupid" to the tail-end of one of them dated October 9. So, they're either "Jeff's" emails...or they're not.

Now, advance the time machine forward a couple of months. "Jeff" crawls out again from under his rock and attacks me personally. In another series of emails, "Jeff" decides I was responsible for posting the previous correspondence with Willminator in public and sending them out on the internet. In his whining he says:

"From your latest discussiongroupgate, I see you are the one responsible for forwarding emails around the conservative blogosphere. Do you know what these "conservatives" on those forums have done to me? I have received more hate mail than I can count and no less than a dozen death threats. Somehow, some of these lunatics have gotten my phone number. What do you think about that? Do you think it's funny that these people found out where I work? That they've called and harassed me? That I nearly was fired because of all this? You should be disgusted with yourself."

My response to him:

"Since you have had "death threats" - or so you say - you're going to get a hold of your local police department and file a report. You're going to provide evidence that you did receive these threats, as well as provide your boss's phone number to them as well, so they could corroborate the threat of firing. You're going to explain to them how they were able to determine your private address, phone number, SSN, and other things after looking at a disposable email account which you now have and are replying to me with. You're also going to explain to them - as well as a JUDGE - how you got a hold of "discussiongate," which is a private web-based group meant for others to discuss the ways and means of protecting Conservapedia."

"Jeff" would have none of that. Since this little war was begun, he has continued with his demands that I provide access to my lawyer, details of my location, etc. But even he admitted he's still not sure of what - if anything at all - that I did:

"How in the world do you think that's going to happen without your contact information???

I'm still not even sure what (if anything) you did, because you're not being honest."

The fact is that "Jeff" is the one who's not being honest. He was slaughtered by Willminator in the earlier email series; he admitted those emails were not his; now he's attacking me by stating those emails were his after all. And the "death threats" he claimed? Just where is the police report at detailing them? How he could have received threats of any kind based on nothing more than a disposable email address is beyond me, and when I typed in "Jeff Tavolieri" in Google, I got no references at all for anyone with that name.

Except one.

It's called RationalWiki. A place called a "trash heap" by one, and "inhabited by thugs" by another. They're on record as using "cyber-terror tactics" in an effort to remove Conservapedia from the internet; they're the ones who employ DDoS attacks, major and minor vandalism, links to porn and worse...and all because they were thrown out of Conservapedia when they couldn't get their way. Which means - like the "suicide rant" in Wikipedia back in January and detailed in an earlier posting - this "Jeff" was a fake. So, what he said above back in October applies right now, and he is brutally honest in all of his hate:

"I will lie, revise history, cheat, steal and censor to further our goals. What are you going to do about it? I will stop at no end, but you have to operate within the fictional bounds of your morality. How can you win this game when I can break the rules? Give it up and get out of america while you still can because nothing will stop us. Do you think you're going to fight? Do you think we would have any problem using chemical warfare or weapons of mass destruction? Do you think we care if women and children get in the way? Face it, we will win."

I disagree with you, "Jeff". You lost.

Update...

Since I posted this it was only a matter of time - in fact, less than two hours - that "Jeff" would make his response, and this is what he said:

"What you didn't get through your thick skull was that later emails with Will were edited...by Will. Unless you think I'm Will and I was logged into his CP account editing my letter to myself which I posted on my own userpage."

Now the October emails in Willminator's page are back to not being "Jeff's", or heavily altered. If that's the case, if these emails are not "Jeff's" at all, then he has absolutely no reason for attacking me.

And he ends this latest one by saying "You're lucky I don't kick your ass you piece of (censored)". Ahh, I would have loved to see him try to do that, especially in a courtroom. But that has become typical of those whose lies have gotten the best of them, because when they're caught at it, they whine and scream and holler.

Oh well.

And another update...

March 11, 2011.

Now he's got to report me to Blogger; he's upset that I "outed" him as being a fake and a fraud, and as at the beginning, he's got to engage in harassment:

"hey, loser, nice blog. i've contacted blogspot about having it removed and providing logs of your actions."

I'm still waiting for him to carry out his threat of court action. Look's like I'll be waiting a long, long time.

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